To believe or not to believe – that is the question

Posted: 22. märts 2011 in Life, Society
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Lately I’ve been wondering about various prophets and future/fortune tellers. Most of them don’t really know anything, are just guessing or have good people reading skills like the character Patrick Jane from the TV-show “Mentalist”. But out of all these so called “prophets” a few have stood up from the others and I can’t help but to wander if they really are right or not.

A very big thing is the Mayan prophecy that the world will end in 2012. That is wrong. If we look at the actual facts and texts that the Mayans wrote then we see that they themselves didn’t believe either that the world will end in 2012. They actually wrote that a long period/cycle ends in 2012 and a new era/cycle begins. That’s the main point of their prophecy, not that the world will end.

Another well known prophet is Nostradamus. He is best known for his book “Les Propheties” (The Prophecies) which was published in 1555. In “The Prophecies” he compiled his collection of major long-term predictions. Nostradamus enthusiasts have credited him with predicting numerous events from world  history, including the French Revolution, the rise of Napoleon Bonaparte, the atomic bomb, the rise of Adolf Hitler and the 9/11 attacks on the WTC. For example he wrote:

“From the deepest part of Western Europe
A young child will be born to poor people
Who will by his speech seduce a great multitude,
His reputation will increase in the Kingdom of the East” (Century 3, Quatrain 35)

“Beasts ferocious with hunger will cross the rivers,
The greater part of the battlefield will be against Hister.
Into a cage of iron will the great one be drawn,
When the child of Germany observes nothing.” (Century 2, Quatrain 24)

Many believe that this prophecy was about the rise of Hitler and his later conquests in the world.

Then I also found an interesting prophecy about the assassination of JFK: “The ancient work will be accomplished, And from the roof evil ruin will fall on the great man: They will accuse an innocent, being dead, of the deed: The guilty one is hidden in the misty copse. (Century 6, Quatrain 37). JFK was shot from the roof, he was a great man (one of the most well known US presidents) and many believe that Lee Harvey Oswald was just a scapegoat to hide the real murderer.

He also said about the 9/11 attacks that “Five and forty degrees, the sky shall burn: To the great new city shall the fire draw night. With vehemence the flames shall spread and churn. When with the Normans they conclusions try.” ‘Five and forty degrees’ was said to be the latitude of New York City (which is incorrect; New York’s latitude is 40°47′), or was interpreted as ‘40.5 degrees’ (even though the decimal point had not yet come into use in the Europe of Nostradamus’ day). ‘New City’, similarly, was claimed to be New York (even though Nostradamus refers in this way to various ‘New Cities’ whose names, unlike ‘New York’, literally mean ‘New City’, and especially Naples – from Greek Neapolis, ‘new city’).

And I also found a prophecy about the death of princess Diana: “The last son of the man with the Prophet’s name Will bring Diana to her day of rest. At a distance they wander in frenetic grief Delivering a great people from ruin.” (Century 2, Quatrain 28). The father of Dodi al-Fayed, the owner of Harrod’s department store, is named Mohammed, the name of the Islamic Prophet (the man with the prophets name). He is with her until her day of death (day of rest.) In this verse he gives the month of Diana’s death, it is the last number of the verse. If you add the 2 to 28, you have 30. Diana died on 8/31. We can create 8/30 by adding the numbers making him only one day off.

I don’t know what to think of these predictions. It seems like they could be true and would fit these events that happened but then again the original text is in French – have they translated the text correctly? Since Nostradamus lived in 1500-s words may have had different meanings then today (for example when they said that a woman and a men were companions it actually meant they were married). And also it seems that some of the Nostradamus prophecies are too general and since they are like “coded” 4-line verses then anyone can interpret them in their own way.

And then there is also Baba Vanga – a Bulgarian mystic, clairvoyant and herbalist. In her childhood Vanga was an ordinary girl but the turning point in her life when she was caught up in a sand storm that lifted her up carried to another place. She was found after a long search and due to the storm she became blind. After that her “powers” became more evident. Baba Vanga is credited with foretelling many future events that have already happened. During the earlier years, it is said that her older brother, Vasil, had joined the army and was ready to go to war. Baba Vanga cried and begged him not to go as he would die at the age of 23. Despite the warning, her brother left and eventually surrendered to the Germans who tortured and later executed him. She is believed to have predicted the break-up of the Soviet Union, the Chernobyl disaster, the death of Princess Diana, Boris Yeltsin’s electoral victory and the date of Stalin’s death. Over the years, she was visited by many political leaders, including Adolf Hitler. Always the one to turn away bad people after exposing their hidden secrets, Hitler was seen leaving Baba Vanga’s house in a bad mood. Had she booted him with harsh words or just told him a future he didn’t want to hear is unknown. In 1989 she predicted the World Trade Center disaster, she wrote ““Horror, horror! The American brethren will fall after being attacked by the steel birds. The wolves will be howling in a bush, and innocent blood will be gushing.” “Brethren” is believed to refer to the “Twin” Towers or the “Brothers”. “Steel Birds” are obviously the jets. The part about the bush is believed to refer to President Bush. Among other things she predicted the following events:

  • 2010 – World War III. The war will begin in November 2010 and end in October 2014. It will begin as usual conflict but then grown over to a war where nuclear bombs will be used then also chemical weapons.
  • 2011 – As a result of the nuclear fallout in the northern hemisphere there will not be any animals or vegetation. Then Muslims will wage war against surviving Europeans with chemical weapons.
  • 2014 – Most people will suffer skin cancer and other skin diseases (a consequence of chemical warfare).
  • 2016 – Europe almost lonely (empty).
  • 2018 – China becomes a new world power.

And actually the list goes on until year 5079 which Vanga believes is the date when the world will end.

Again, I don’t know what to think of her predictions. Her previous predictions about the break-up of Soviet Union, the Chernobyl catastrophe, the Kursk  catastrophe and September 11 attacks seem quite accurate. She also said that basically WWIII begins in 2010 in November – exactly the same time the conflict between two Koreas started off. As for this year (2011) she talks about a nuclear fallout – there is such a threat in Japan at the moment. I guess some of her predictions are true but not in the same extent that she predicted. But if I read her far-reaching future predictions – well, to be honest they seem a bit weird and possibly not true.

So, I don’t know if we should believe these so called “prophets” or not. Some things they have said have become true, some have not. I know that I sometimes dream about things and they end up happening exactly the same way I dreamt – does this mean I’m a prophet? No, it does not mean that. I think that sometimes we can either sense something coming or use the people’s behavior reading skills but I do not think that we -humans- can actually foresee what’s happening in the future. It’s exactly the same as going to a fortune teller – you go there, she/he talks to you a bit, lays down her cards and basically says just want you want to hear – not the things that are really going to happen. So when it comes to these various prophecies I think we can read them, question them, discuss them but we shouldn’t take them very seriously or as an absolute truth.

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  2. This is a great post! I’ve thought about prophets and predictions a lot. I found out about the “survivorship bias” which you can Google if you’re interested. Basically, we hear about things that work out and not about failures. There have been millions of prophets and by pure chance, some will make predictions that come true. They will be remembered while the rest will be forgotten.
    You have an interesting blog, thanks for sharing your thoughts here!

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